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Books by Marvin X
Love and War: Poems /
In the Crazy House Called America /
Woman: Man's Best Friend /
Beyond Religion Toward Spirituality
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From the Pyramids to the Projects: Poems of Genocide and
Resistance! /
Dawnsong:The Epic Memory of Askia
Toure
African Affirmations: Songs for Patriots
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Biography - Toure, Askia Muhammad Abu Bakr el (1938-)
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Askia Touré and
Marvin X on
Black Studies
Forum on the
Impact of BAM
Histories
Saturday, March
14
Dear Marvin X,
What it is, Bro?
How you gon'
write about San
Francisco State
Univ. and leave
my name out of
it? Gee, as I
remember it,
both Sis. Sonia
and I taught
Danny Glover &
Benny, and other
young militants.
As I remember,
that while
writing w/Dingane
on the
Journal, and
making a
controversial
criticism of
Amiri—being, as
I remember it,
the only
principled
writer to
criticize him
about some the
theories that he
forwarded in his
plays—which
almost caused a
rebellion among
Black Dialogue
editors—while
most people were
busily kissing
his feet as a
kind of Cult of
Personality
Messiah—I was
almost hounded
out of town; but
held firmly
without
wavering.
And Gee, didn't
you and I
co-found the
Huey P. Newton
Defense
Committee, when
Huey
successfully
heroically
fought his way
out of a police
ambush? Let me
see, Gee, wasn't
that original
founding meeting
attended by
attorney William
Patterson, his
comrade, Mr.
Crawford, Sis.
Nebbie Crawford
(his beautiful
daughter); and
didn't Baba
Patterson
lecture two
Muslim bros,
Marvin & Askia,
about being
"narrow
Nationalists,"
and while we
disagreed, we
never confronted
the Elder, out
of respect.. And
later, we
collectively
convinced Jim
Lacey to head
the Defense
Committee, which
he did, after
arriving back
from Nkrumah's
Ghana.
With all due
respect, Marvin,
what goes with
the Historical
Amnesia? I had
to add those
missing portions
of that
History—or
become a missing
person—like what
happened to me
recently in
Harlem, when we
collectively
honored
Amiri—and I
thanked him for
helping me
develop my
voice, and we
hugged each
other—and when
the nigga wrote
the article for
the Amsterdam
News, he
"erased" my name
from
history—like I
wasn't there,
even though
Amiri & Askia
embraced to warm
applause from
the audience.
Excuse my
"sensitivity"
about being
erased from
history—especially
by comrades.
As for the
culture of the
Temple Univ.
Black Studies
Conf., I've been
asked to chair
the Cultural
Panel by Comrade
Dr. Muhammad
Ahmad, and I've
chosen a
beautiful sista,
Bolade
Akintolayo from
Brooklyn to
co-chair of this
panel with me.
As Always, you
know you're
welcome to
participate on
this panel—and
bring the flavor
of the W.Coast
Black Arts
experience, and
also raise the
Generation
Dialogue w/the
Hip-Hop
generation,
sistas & bruthas.
I accept your
timely criticism
that much of the
Black Arts
experience has
been too
East-Midwest
oriented,
omitting key
experiences of
both the West
Coast and the
beautiful,
Blues-rooted, as
opposed to
"dirty," South.
I know and
respect you,
Marvin X, as
much as I did
when I welcomed
you to Harlem.
Whenever you
come to any city
I'm in, I'll
always uphold
your leadership,
talent and
experience.
Let's go forward
together and
heal these many
wounds among us.
Peace and Power,
In Struggle,
Askia Toure
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Bro Askia,
even though most
of you generals
are almost ten
years older than
I am, I too
sometimes suffer
from amnesia.
This is not
intentional
because I am
conscious of
revisionist
history these
days, so I
certainly don't
want to be
guilty of this,
so I thank you
for making me
aware of
ignoring your
contribution to
our liberation.
You taught and
fought at San
Francisco State
University as
well as made a
major
contribution to
BAM in Harlem,
no one can deny
this.
It is good to
hear from you
since our last
meeting in
Boston. I look
forward to
seeing and
participating
with you at
Temple and also
at the
Smithsonian,
even if I am not
on the program.
It was suggested
to me today that
a group of us
need to do a
national tour to
educate our
people on the
correct history
of BAM, Black
Studies and
Black
Liberation.
Peace and Love,
Marvin X
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Marvin, a
very interesting
dialogue between
you and Askia.
But part of the
conversation seems
to be missing,
namely, your
writing about
what happened
at San Francisco
State
University.
In any case
these dialogues
are important.
So are reports
from these
conferences. If
the dialogues go
no farther than
the conference
walls, are the
organizers and
participants
fully doing all
that must be
done. I will not
be attending the
conference at
Temple, but I am
interested in
the proceedings.
Here are some
words once
uttered that
still find their
resonance:
"We need facts
figures
precision and
skill. It is
work and study
that will change
the world. The
rest is clearly
bullshit."
Amiri
Baraka (1973)
We need
conference
reports. History
of the 60s and
70s is
important. But
history of
yesterday has
its importance
as well.
Peace and love,
Rudy
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Rudy, I
recently spoke
to Davey D's
class on hip hop
at San Francisco
State
University. D
wanted me to
make the
historical
connection
between BAM and
Hip Hop. Of
course for me, I
began my journey
into black
consciousness,
black art, black
liberation at
Oakland's
Merritt College
after graduating
from high
school. The
first "rappers"
(as in H. Rap
Brown, now Jamil
Alamin) I heard
were on the
steps of
Merritt. They
were, among
others, Bobby
Seale, Richard
Thorne, Huey
Newton, Ken
Freeman, Ernie
Allen, Ann
Williams, Carol
Freeman and
others--led by
attorney Donald
Warden (Khalid
Abdullah Tariq
Al Mansur) and
his
Afro-American
Association. The
"rappers" rapped
on black
consciousness,
discussing
issues in E.
Franklin
Frazier's Black
Bourgeoisie, the
writings of
Kwame Nkrumah,
Jomo Kenyatta's
ethnography
Facing Mt.
Kenya, Patrice Lumumba, Nelson
Mandela, Fidel
Castro's speech
"History Will
Absolve Me," and
others topics.
Bobby Seale
calls us the
neo-black
intellectuals. A
sister who
recalls us said
she labeled us
the petty
bourgeoisie
intellectuals,
nevertheless we
were striving
for
consciousness
and doing so
outside of the
classroom, at
cafes and each
others rooms. I
was formally
introduced to
Huey Newton at
Richard Throne's
room.. After
Richard showed
Huey some of my
aphorisms, Huey
asked me, "Man,
what is your
program?" I
asked the
students the
same question in
Davey D's class.
The
topic the
students were
pondering was is
hip hop a social
movement. And if
so, what is hip
hop's program?
Is it about
spreading
consciousness as
we were about at
Merritt and
later at San
Francisco State
College. I
displayed my
early writings
and the
publications I
was associated
with while a
student at SF
State, such as
Journal of Black
Poetry, Black
Dialogue,
Soulbook, Black
Scholar and
Negro
Digest/Black
World. Journal
of Black Poetry
and Black
Dialogue was
produced by us
while poor,
starving
students at SFSU.
At the same time
we produced
plays (my
Flowers for the Trashman, Jimmy
Garrett's We Own
the Night) and
held poetry
readings on
campus. Danny
Glover was one
of our actors.
My point is that
we were young
people on the
move to save
ourselves and
the world. I
don't know if I
see hip hop
saving people
and the world
even though it
is now world
youth culture.
BAM has had a
direct impact of
what is now
called "Rap,"
but most rap is
a long way from
what we were
rapping about at
Merritt and SFSU.
Conscious rap
has been drowned
out by the
bitch, ho,
motherfucker
genre. When I
wrote in a poem
"motherfuck the
police," I was
coming from a
revolutionary
perspective not
from some hip
hop gang
banger's
individualistic
point of view.
And it was from
this
revolutionary
perspective that
BAM evolved and
the liberation
movement,
particularly the
Black Panther
Party who took
on the police.
The Panthers
began as
defenders of the
community. What
I want to stress
is that we were
youth on the
move. And of
course it was
the same in the
South with the
brothers and
sisters in SNNC.
Students at SFSU
evolved from the
Negro Students
Association to
the Black
Students Union,
then toward the
establishment of
the first black
studies program
in America, at
least on a major
college campus.
Huey and Bobby
had continued to
fight for black
studies at
Oakland's
Merritt College.
So is there a
connection
between the
black liberation
movement, BAM,
Black Studies
(all youth
inspired and
directed) and
Hip Hop? Yes and
no. We had
ideology and
program. Does
Hip Hop have
ideology and
program? BAM,
Black Studies
and Black
Liberation
inspired world
youth culture as
does Hip Hop,
but much if not
most of Hip Hop
culture cannot
be called
revolutionary.
Much of Hip Hop
is fad and
fashion, styling
and profiling.
Yes, the
Panthers styled
and profiled,
but with a
revolutionary
agenda, not for
bling bling. The
Muslims styled
and profiled but
with a
revolutionary
agenda: the
establishment of
a nation.
Marvin X
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What Black Liberation Means in the Obama
Era?
High generational expectations
as represented in Professor Floyd Hayes' "Intergenerational
Disconnect" will not be met for generations to come in black
communities, if ever. That yesterday he speaks of admiringly cannot
and will not be replicated. The world he speaks of—the past leaders
and the past generations up to the 1970s—is a middle class one with
middle-class values. That success-oriented black middle-class was
trapped by Jim Crow, forced to live among the black poor that it
partially despised because of their ignorance and loose sexual
behavior. Today's black middle class is comfortable and mobile: its
concerns are that of most liberal and moderate Americans.
More and more like the white
professional middle classes its members only come into contact with
the black poor and rabble in passing, the nightly news, TV, hoodlum
or comedy films. Or if they are in their family, they socialize only
rarely, e.g., a funeral. They are just not part of the same set;
their interests, lifestyles, perspectives, goals are tangential.
Liberation for the black professional classes is here; for the black
poor working classes is a Disney, hip hop dream.
There's always a kind of
revisionism which clouds the historical truth. There was a global
revolution afoot in that period of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. With world
war, colonialism, and mass killings in the background, the world was
becoming smaller; new nations in Africa and Asia were being born
daily. Colonial provincialism was breaking down and the youth of
that time were getting to know other peoples and other cultures. It
was the dawning of a Third World, of a new Age of Aquarius. All that
idealism died a governmental death, as professor Floyd points out.
The world now is even much
smaller, maybe too small. Mexico and Columbia, and Afghanistan are
maybe too close for the poor and restricted children of black and
Hispanic ghettos. There is no liberal idealism of the Other, who may
be strapped with a high-powered rapid-firing gun, a bomb, or a phone
detonator. College students groups or like those of SNCC and CORE
cannot be found today. There is rather a great global contest for
the shortage of work and money.
I doubt if there will ever be
such mass movements and such leaders of yesteryear ever again, as we
knew with Douglas and Delany, Washington and Du Bois, Garvey and
Randolph, King and Malcolm, or groups like the Elijah’s Black
Muslims or King’s SCLC, or Carmichael’s SNCC protesters and their
black power advocates or Newton’s Panthers and their “Power to the
People.” Genocides will probably become more frequent than mass
protests. State terrorism is now the rage against those entrenched
in revolutionary suicide. Did you hear that the
Israelis experimented new weapons on the Gazans that tears flesh
from bones and leaves buildings standing: the use of chemical
warfare via phosphorus clusters.
Also look at the literature and racial
writers a bit closer that Floyd believes are still worthy of
consideration by the youth of today:
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Think of figures like J. A. Rogers,
Leo Hansberry, Dr. Ben, John G. Jackson, Chancellor
Williams, John Henrik Clarke, and even the late book
dealer Alfred Ligon in Los Angeles. And there was
Cheikh Anta Diop in Senegal! |
The youth of today have no
love, admiration, appreciation for such writers and their
intellectual sacrifices. (Dr. Ben is in a nursing home, helpless to
find better accommodations.) I see only the smallest exceptional
students reading such literature, which basically argues for the
humanity of African peoples. Growing up I recall the prevalence of
doubt on such a core human issue, and an urgency for change. Most
black kids today take their present rights and privileges for
granted. As Professor Floyd points out the present reading
generations are geared toward the “personal” as can be seen in Kam
Williams'
The Best Black Books of 2008.
Professor Floyd goes farther in this line of
thought in the lack of
gravitas:
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Never having experienced segregation,
and too young to remember radical social movements of
the 1960s, Blacks born in the 1980s and early 1990s
constitute a new generation that is historically
rudderless and lost in turbulent seas of America’s
failing and decadent empire. |
America is indeed a "failing
and decadent empire" and black kids are "historically
rudderless." By some this political view of the now generation by
earlier generations can be rationalized and justified. Yet America's global power will continue to be dominant far into the future,
most young people believe, and they are probably right to think so,
even Communist China wants America to succeed as the world’s
greatest economic market. The accommodating "Everything is
everything" came on the scene early, even by 1968. Cynicism stinks
to high heaven in our communities: everything is seen as a hustle.
There's indeed a reluctance to
open old wounds, as with the post-slavery generation, except maybe
those ex-slaves interviewed in the 30s during the FWP era. They were
too old to care about reprisals. They were already out of the orbit
of concern and respect. There are so many RIPs adorning ghetto walls
that old wounds of struggle and glory have no place of honor.
Today's RIPS begin and end in pettiness and bullshit.
But the racial ills and
sacrifices of the pre-80s are not the lens through which most
middle-class Americans, not to speak of the hip-hop generations, see
or envision America. History and historical villains are constantly
being accommodated, cleaned up, rehabilitated, and dressed up for
the market, as in Up
from History: The Life of Booker T. Washington. Or as in the
latest film on
Notorious B.I.G. If anything, the youthful generations are
concerned about the immediate, like random police brutality or black
on black crime.
The younger generations are
slipping and dodging, even in their sagging pants, for immediate
gratification. So concerned for their bellies and immediate satiation they
know not what to believe or think. They have little clarity of what
"respect" is. Theirs is an inward and outward violence, which has
become a mainstay that crosses generations, but coming now from a
more deadly and different kind of dynamism and psychic. Professor
Floyd comes to the nexus of now and then:
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So, one might ask what role Obama
might play in the lives of this new generation. Will he
inspire this new generation, directly or indirectly, to
recapture the value of historical knowledge for the
purpose of redesigning the future of Black people around
the world? |
I would say the politics of
black youth are local, very local. (Check out Ted Wilson's
From Gangs of the Ghetto to Gangstas of the Inner City.) I am
not certain exactly what Professor Floyd's intent is in the phrase
"to recapture historical knowledge" What knowledge: Manners? Respect
for Elders? What elders: those buying crack and smack from young
slingers. These young gangsters can't tell the difference between
you and me and their clientele! They have no depth. They are not
literate. For them it is kill or be killed. If there is any issue
found disturbing among youth it is this randomness of police
brutality, prison slavery, and corrupt courts. But many of
these drop-outs in their radical individualism begin early not to
expect much out of life. They have little fear of cops or prisons.
Such racial class issues do not
make for the markings of a mass movement. These events are indeed
vastly "disconnected," except by traditional racial devaluing. But
such events are the life blood for hip hop cultural proselytizers
(drug slinging, rapping, black on black violence, and gangster
styling). Among these youth and their raps, there is little concern
for the politics of the Middle East, Africa, Latin America, and the
Caribbean, or the connections of these places with the unfortunate
lives of black youth. The concept of Third World solidarity is dead.
Yes, their "value systems are
reflective of their parents' acquisitive and indifferent
orientation." Buying and acquiring are American as apple pie. We have
just passed an economic bill that bets on people spending and
buying, whatever. But the youth of today have made it their own
under the influence of the entertainment industry (primarily the
sports and music industries). They have their own uniforms and
accessories. Their orientation: the quickest way to get those Benjamins and get the brand name accessories, like iphones and ipods?
The great struggle before us is
an internal one. For the country is willing to leave the black
poor behind to our own cultural designs. The prison industry grows
in this downturn. We are not in need of military like organizations
to lead the people. The religionists have failed to seek out the
children of the poor. The schools have failed to challenge the
children of the poor. We are in need of parents, even in their
poverty, to set more realistic and restrictive goals for their
children, more appropriate behavior, more ordering of their time, a
greater respect for work, for those who are older and educated.
For instance, I was talking to
a high school history teacher in the hall weeks ago and a female
student passed by and called him "Boo." A teenage girl and a 60
year old man! And she is one of the better students. Too many
parents want to be their children's friend; too many educators want
to be loved by their students. Thus, we have a lenience that
sustains looseness and slovenly behavior.
There is not so much of a
"disconnect" as a lack of real "respect" between the
generations. Public school principals and other educators are not
establishing the right behavior and right principles for young
people to strive in a Right Wing America. They have given themselves
over to the ethics and moralities of the culture of poverty, e.g.,
get over by any means necessary. Obama cannot and will not single
out the black poor to point out their cultural shortfalls. The
discipline job then is left to the sadism of cops, prison guards,
and other criminals.
Our educators have given
themselves over to careerism (go along to get along) and
standardized testing. Many of them are ready to retire from
education by the time they reach their 40s. They are tired of the
bizarre and loose behavior of young people who know little or
nothing about the world, who know the price of everything and the
value of nothing. Floyd ends with the ultimate goal of generational
concerns:
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post-Black Power generations think that anti-Black racism is over in
America and give up a concern for and commitment to the struggle for
Black liberation? |
I would indeed like for someone
to define for me what "the struggle for black liberation" means in
the Obama Era. In my view "black liberation" is as dead as Martin
and Malcolm. The black poor will become a universal: a source of
cheap labor, liberal sentiment, and exotic entertainment.
There indeed needs to be a
struggle for human development and social justice but I am uncertain
we can speak of these needs that cry out globally in 1960s "terms"
like “liberation” when fundamentalism and extremism have become the
order of the day.
I wonder indeed whether 21st century
hip hoppers will speak soon in such cool terms as, "Obama, that's my
nigger, even if he don't get any bigger!"
Rudy
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A Praise Song for
Askia
By Marvin X
Warrior man master wordsmith
lyrical singer of liberation
in the
wilderness of north of america
slaying of the beasts dragons demons of the mind heart
soul of trashmen
down
from warriors
up
from slavery
up
from ignot
up
from negrocities (baraka term)
Askia
we love you the world over
those
who know and don't know
love
is a spirit thing my man
you
are not forgotten in history your hands made
your
love songs to African queens your poems made
thrilling us with the magic of your mind
I was
there when the walls of Spelman fell from the power of
your
poem Venus and Serena
black
women wailed with joy
I saw
you afraid of your own word power
I was
afraid of the earthquake you unleashed
Mighty
Man do not be afraid history will deny your deeds
don't
worry about academe and media freaks of capitalism and
slavery
just
do the work and in the end
ancestors shall rejoice
the living and yet unborn shall cry
tears of joy at the warrior blood of your pen.
15 March 2009
Peace and love—Marvin X |
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On
Cecil Brown's
Dude,
Where's My Black Studies Department -- Thus Africans and Caribbean
Negroes were in many cases less radical, even though much of the
African American radical tradition comes from immigrants, such
as Marcus Garvey, George Padmore, Kwame Toure, Malcolm X and
Farrakhan. As Amina Baraka informed me, "We're all West
Indians." And this is true because kidnapped Africans were
brought to the Caribbean for "the breaking in," then
transferred to North America and elsewhere.
And we must ask ourselves would we rather have a radical
immigrant African in black studies or a reactionary Negro only
because he is a Negro.
Marvin X, Africa or
America: The Emphasis in Black Studies Programs |
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Go, Tell Michelle
African American Women Write to the New First Lady
Edited Barbara A. Seals Nevergold and Peggy
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posted 15 March
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