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Everybody admires the bravery firemen exhibit by rushing
into a burning building when the human survival instinct
calls for exactly the opposite behavior. It is for
similar reasons that you are likely to find Daryle
Lamont Jenkins so fascinating, since this 37 year-old
black man born in Newark devotes most of his free-time
to monitoring the movements of the Ku Klux Klan,
neo-Nazis and other white supremacists.
When
you’re watching the evening news coverage of the latest
Klan rally, odds are Daryle’s there as part of the
counter-demonstration, shouting at the racists to crawl
back under a rock. Just as importantly, he’s there to
take photographs in order to expose their identities by
posting their mug shots on his website.
Daryle has been compiling information about white
supremacists since 1988, and in 2000 he joined with some
like-minded activists in forming One People’s Project in
order to monitor racist right-wing activity. Established
in Morristown, NJ, in the aftermath of a Klan rally, the
watchdog organization currently maintains a database of
records and information not only on hate groups but on
their individual members as well. It is Daryle’s aim to
make certain that these groups are not allowed to
function in any capacity. Thus far, his group has been
successful in outing several neo-Nazis and those that
give them financial support.
Don’t think that being the very visible spokesman of an
organization dedicated to the outing of hate groups all
across the country doesn’t come with considerable risks.
As Daryle explains, he routinely receives anonymous
death threats, and frequently finds his website the
subject of sabotage.
In
fact, he didn’t even feel comfortable sharing his home
address or the nature of his day job with me, which is
understandable, given the information he had recently
received from the Federal Prosecutor’s Office. On June
16th, a couple of neo-Nazis already in custody for
possession of bomb-making materials admitted that
Daryle’s name had been prominent on their hit list.
While I don’t necessarily recommend joining Mr. Jenkins
on the frontlines, I do hope folks will consider
visiting his homepage and sending a contribution to his
most worthy cause.
ONE
PEOPLE'S PROJECT /
http://onepeoplesproject.com/ PO Box 8291 / Jersey
City, NJ 07308 / (201)982-0039
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KW:
How did you get started chasing the Ku Klux Klan and
their ilk?
DJ:
Well, monitoring politics is something I’ve done since I
was a kid. I was always fascinated by the struggle for
civil rights. And as a student of history, I developed
an interest in those who had opposed it, trying to
figure out what made them tick, so to speak. I probably
began collecting data on hate groups around the time
when Oprah featured some skinheads on her show and
Geraldo had that incident when he had his nose broken by
neo-Nazis. So, I’ve basically been doing this since I
was in my teens.
KW:
I remember years ago once checking into a motel in a
rural part of Western Connecticut, picking up the local
paper and seeing the front-page story about how the Klan
had a permit to march up Main Street the very next day.
Needless to say, I decided maybe I wasn’t too tired to
drive another 100 miles, and I checked right back out.
Besides, I don’t think I would have slept well knowing
Klansman could be in the room right next door. When most
black people hear that the Klan’s in town, they want to
get away.
DJ:
I don’t know that people of color are necessarily afraid
of them, but I will definitely say that there is some
confusion about what to do about them when they come
around. One People’s Project is here to help people find
the answer to that question.
KW:
What is the ethnic make-up of your group?
DJ:
It’s predominantly white. In fact, I’m one of the
few people of color in the underground, anti-Fascist
scene that is this active. There are a number of us, but
you don’t see a lot. I’m always trying to encourage
others to get involved.
KW:
About how many die-hard black activists are involved in
the anti-Klan movement?
DJ:
Ironically, maybe two or three, and I’m one of the
founders. That has to change. I’m definitely interested
in recruiting more people of color.
KW:
Why hasn’t that been a priority before?
DJ:
Basically, because a prime way to get information is
by being inside these groups. And there aren’t too many
black people who could work undercover in that fashion.
A lot of white people who have been a part of this
organization have extracted the information that we need
by infiltrating a hate group.
KW:
What makes you want to show up at a Klan rally to
confront them?
DJ:
[laughs] I love a good fight. Basically, I’m a guy
that wants to find some solutions to the problem. We
can’t keep on allowing groups like the Klan, the Aryan
Nation, the National Alliance, the National Vanguard,
and the National Socialist Movement (neo Nazis) to hold
society at-large hostage. You have to take them out.
KW:
How do you go about that?
DJ:
The first thing you have to do is get as much
information as you can on them, determine their
weaknesses, and then you go after them on that level.
KW:
What type of help is your organization looking for
besides financial contributions?
DJ:
The main thing we need are volunteers to do
research. And we also need writers. Unfortunately, we’re
so short-handed that we often get frustrated by the fact
that we can’t deal with a lot of things we are aware of.
We’re also frustrated by our very limited finances.
Everything is out-of-pocket. Since I’ve made myself
high-profile, the white supremacists have taken to going
after me in any way they can. For instance, after a
demonstration in March, the neo-Nazis put out a totally
false press release saying that One People’s Project
passed out the rocks and eggs that were thrown at the
police, when none of us were even there. That inaccuracy
was reported by CNN, which in turn, affects our
credibility. So, we could also use some pro bono legal
help to respond to libelous allegations like that.
KW:
About how many white supremacist rallies a year do you
monitor?
DJ:
Over the past five years, an average of about five to
ten.
KW:
When you attend a Klan or neo-Nazi rally, how close have
you come to a violent confrontation?
DJ:
One People’s Project really tries to stay away from
that, but you can’t guarantee that it won’t explode into
that like what happened in Valley Forge in 2004, and in
York, Pennsylvania on January 12, 2002. That one was
huge.
KW:
How huge? Were you outnumbered?
DJ:
There were about 150 of them, but there 300 on our
side.
KW:
How did it escalate into violence?
DJ:
The police didn’t keep the people apart all that well,
and the next thing you know, all hell broke loose. That
was one of the biggest confrontations in the past 30
years.
KW:
What happened?
DJ:
One neo-Nazi who ran over a dozen people with his truck,
you had a number of arrests. It was crazy.
KW:
As an expert on the subject, what areas of the country
would you say are hotbeds of white supremacy?
DJ:
In the Northeast, definitely Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania
is insane, because a number of groups are based there.
As a matter of fact, I think the Southern Poverty Law
Center lists it as the state having the largest
concentration of white supremacists. Then there’s
Florida in the South, but also Portland, Oregon that has
a number of Nazi groups.
KW:
How do other counter-supremacist groups located
close to those areas, like Anti-Racist Action, deal with
the Klan?
DJ:
They get into underground wars with them, by getting
into battles with them in the streets, by going after
them at rallies. Most of the press doesn’t cover what’s
going on at that underground level, but it’s very
intense and heats up.
KW:
How large a contingent can One People’s Project get to
attend a counter-demonstration?
DJ:
We’re small. I’d say there are only about 20 or 30
people in our group right now. So, whenever we go out to
an event, there are usually just a handful of us, so our
main mission is to gather information. We want people to
understand exactly what’s going on. We’re there with our
notebooks and pens taking down names, and with our
cameras taking pictures and videotaping everything. We
want every moment documented, so that people know what’s
going on. One of the main features of our website is our
“Rogues Gallery,” it’s loaded with a long list of people
we’re concerned about that we used to call “The Scum of
the Earth.” And we post their names and home addresses.
KW:
Is what you’re doing legal?
DJ:
Yes, we do not wish them harm, or call for anybody to do
anything illegal with our information.
KW:
They must still get upset about being outed over the
Internet. Do they try to retaliate?
DJ:
Yeah, we expect for them to try to respond and we’re
prepared for it. Our website gets hacked and our servers
get threatened with lawsuits.
KW:
Are you at all afraid for your personal safety?
DJ:
What protects me is the fact that I move a lot. So,
by the time they put my information on a website, I’m
pretty much out of there.
KW:
You’re single, but what about your folks?
DJ:
My parents have gotten calls from white supremacists,
but they know how to handle the situation. My siblings
haven’t been hassled as much.
KW:
So, you have some enemies who would like to silence
you?
DJ:
Yeah, and it’s not for a lack of trying. I just
won’t let them. I got a call from the Federal
Prosecutor’s Office yesterday about the case of a couple
of New-Nazis who were arrested on weapons charges and
for conspiracy. They were caught with bomb-making
materials. My name came up during the interrogation of
one of them, and I was told during that call that the
bomb was actually meant for me. Apparently, I was
mentioned on an FBI transcript of all this.
KW:
Does that scare you?
DJ:
Needless to say, it’s something that I have come to
expect. It’s nothing that’s going to slow me down. But
it’s definitely something to stay mindful of in this
line of work.
KW:
Speaking of work, what’s your day job?
DJ:
Sorry, but I can’t divulge that for security reasons.
KW:
I suppose you wouldn’t want to- answer what I call the
Jimmy Bayan question, namely, where are you living now?
DJ:
I can’t.
KW:
Well thanks for the interview and keep up the good
work.
DJ: Not a problem.
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25 June 2006 |